Martine T

SOBE Greyson-skaal: 6
#33111

Ervaring Beskrywing

August 1990, Avignon. I was pregnant, nearing the end of my term. My gynecologist and I had decided to schedule an appointment to induce labor. My daughter was already a good size, and I wasn't necessarily built to have babies, especially not robust ones. Having her two weeks before the due date increased the chances of a natural birth. So they gave me an injection of some product to induce contractions. This lasted all afternoon; contractions every three minutes, but no dilation. Then they injected me with another product, this time to stop the contractions, so I could have a peaceful night before trying again the next day. August 21, 1990, 9:00 a.m. A new attempt: contractions every three minutes until 6:00 p.m. I was completely exhausted by the late afternoon. At that moment, the midwife and my gynecologist told me they were going to break my water to help the baby come out, as she was also starting to get tired. Waiting any longer could have become dangerous. My gynecologist broke my water and... nothing happened. The baby didn't come out. They then suggested a cesarean section. The anesthesiologist arrived and gave me an epidural. Then he came back a few minutes later and pinched the inside of my thigh. It hurt. We had to face the fact that the epidural hadn't worked. Somewhat embarrassed, he informed me he could not administer another one. After consulting, the decision was made: the only solution left was general anesthesia to perform the cesarean. By this time, it was already 9:00 p.m., and I was sad, disappointed, and tired. I found myself in the operating room, and the anesthesiologist put me to sleep. Once again, the anesthesia didn't work properly because I remember hearing my daughter cry. I also heard the midwife complimenting this "beautiful" baby and the gynecologist calling her "magnificent." I was very proud. At that moment, I felt myself leave my body, projected against the ceiling of the room, but without seeing anything at all. Total blackness. I knew they were below because I could hear them talking, but I couldn't do anything. I realized in that instant that we are only spirit. It was a first shock, but a positive shock, a wonder, a great discovery. A few seconds later, I began to hear voices. A man and a woman told me that if I went with them, I would no longer be in pain, that my daughter was beautiful and she didn't need me anymore, that I had done what I had to do and I could leave. I refused, telling them my daughter needed me, that I had to raise her, that I didn't want to go with them. They insisted, and I got angry. I let out a string of curses. They concluded: "They are more numerous than us. Next time." To explain, I felt internally that it was a battle. A battle of will, of spirit; it was a temptation. They argued for me to come with them, as if to turn me away from my responsibility as a mother. But I wanted to think of my daughter before thinking of myself. I had no desire to go with them. Again, I saw nothing, but through their voices, I felt they were dangerous. I ended up exhausted, spent, but I was finally able to return to my body. Twenty years later, I researched it and learned it was an NDE (Near Death Experience). And so it was a negative NDE. I am still convinced today that if I had accepted the offer from those voices, if I had told them I would go with them, I would never have returned to my body. It's obvious to me, I am absolutely certain. I know because I lived it. No one can convince me it's impossible because for me it is not a belief but a certainty, given that it is what I experienced. Later, in the recovery room, just before waking up, I heard a man's voice, warm, powerful, and resonant as if in a church. It said to me: "Martine, yesterday you fought the devil, that is good. Thanks to you, tomorrow the hostages will be released." And I woke up right after with the pleasant feeling of being in a warm bath. For context, this was referring to a hostage situation that was ongoing during the Gulf War with Saddam Hussein. A dramatic context where each day brought its share of anxiety-inducing news. The fact that this voice said my name, Martine, surprised me a great deal. I thought, "Oh, they know me." And then, I immediately felt the voice was that of God. That is still my firm conviction today. The notions of time it included in what it said really seemed like means it was very deliberately giving me to later verify the coherence of the events. At the same time, I had a very strong feeling of smallness; I was in awe. But I also felt I didn't deserve this contact. Many people search for God, and yet He speaks to me, a small thing who didn't think of Him before, who made fun of the subject when it was brought up in family discussions. I would also add that when He spoke to me, the information He transmitted existed on several levels and weren't just auditory or vocal. It was like Egyptian hieroglyphs, with each letter forming its own sound and, when added together, forming the word and the entire sentence. Then an image to aid understanding. The sentence He pronounced was relatively short, quick to hear and assimilate. Yet, in my mind, it took up a lot of space. I understood the first and primary message: it was a personal congratulation and encouragement. But simultaneously, when He said "thanks to you," I understood more than just those three words. I understood it was thanks to the fact that ultimately everything works that way. Thanks to the way the universe works, where choosing good, choosing the Other (since I was choosing my daughter), necessarily triggers a positive chain reaction; it will necessarily have repercussions on a much larger scale and for the good. From a small act of compassion towards anything, at any level, will follow a chain of light somewhere in the universe. Just like the slightest grain of sand falling on still water will create its share of waves crossing the entire surface. I also had an image when this voice spoke to me. I saw the little ball that was the Earth, our planet, and it seemed wrapped in a net. Each thread of this net lit up with a blue light that circulated at high speed through this terrestrial network. I knew immediately that the blue light represented a good deed, as if it were an energy, the energy of love. The earth seemed to regenerate.

Agtergrond Inligting

Geslag
Female
Datum NDE Gebeure
1/1/1990

Naby-dood ervaring Elemente

Was daar 'n lewensgevaarlike gebeurtenis op die tydstip van jou ervaring?
No, Childbirth, While under general anesthesia
Hoe oorweeg jy die inhoud van jou ervaring?
Both pleasant AND distressing
Het jy gevoel jy is geskei van jou liggaam?
I clearly left my body and existed outside it
Hoe het jou hoogste vlak van bewussyn en waaksaamheid tydens die ervaring vergelyk met jou normale alledaagse bewussyn en waaksaamheid?
More consciousness and alertness than normal, It woke me up
Watter tyd gedurende die ervaring was jy op jou hoogste vlak van bewussyn en waaksaamheid?
Before waking up
Was jou gedagtes versnel?
No
Het dit gelyk asof die tyd versnel of vertraag het?
No
Was jou sintuie helderder as gewoonlik?
No
Vergelyk asseblief jou sig tydens die ervaring met jou alledaagse sig wat jy onmiddellik voor die tyd van die ervaring gehad het
I saw nothing
Vergelyk asseblief jou gehoor tydens die ervaring met jou alledaagse gehoor wat jy onmiddellik voor die tyd van die ervaring gehad het
Same
Het dit gelyk of jy bewus was van dinge wat elders gebeur?
No
Het jy in of deur 'n tonnel gegaan?
No
Het jy enige wesens in jou ervaring gesien?
No
Het jy enige oorlede (of lewende) wesens teëgekom of daarvan bewus geword?
No
Het jy 'n briljante lig gesien, of gevoel omring deur 'n briljante lig?
No
Het jy 'n onwerklik lig gesien?
No
Het dit gelyk asof jy 'n ander, onwêreldse wêreld binnegegaan het?
Some unfamiliar and strange place, Total darkness
Watter emosies het jy tydens die ervaring gevoel?
Which one?
Het jy 'n gevoel van vrede of aangenaamheid gehad?
Relief or calmness
Het jy 'n gevoel van vreugde gehad?
No
Het jy 'n gevoel van harmonie of eenheid met die heelal gehad?
No
Het dit skielik voorgekom of jy alles verstaan?
No
Het tonele uit die toekoms na jou gekom?
No
Het jy by 'n grens of punt van geen terugkeer gekom?
No

God, Geestelikheid en Godsdienst

Wat was jou godsdienst voor jou ervaring?
Unaffiliated- Atheist
Het jou godsdienstige praktyke verander sedert jou ervaring?
Yes
Wat is jou godsdienst nou?
Christian- Mormon
Het jou ervaring kenmerke ingesluit wat ooreenstem met jou aardse oortuigings?
Content that was entirely not consistent with the beliefs you had at the time of your experience, Everything
Het jy 'n verandering in jou waardes en geloofsartikels as gevolg van jou ervaring gehad?
Yes, Questioning the meaning of life
Het dit gelyk asof jy 'n mistieke wese of teenwoordigheid teëgekom het, of 'n onidentifiseerbare stem gehoor het?
I encountered a definite being, or a voice clearly of mystical or unearthly origin, Read my account
Het jy tydens jou ervaring inligting ontvang oor universele verbinding of eenheid?
Yes, Read my account

Betreffende ons aardse lewens behalwe Godsdienst

Het jy tydens jou ervaring spesiale kennis of inligting oor jou doel verkry?
No
Het jy tydens jou ervaring inligting ontvang oor die betekenis van die lewe?
No
Het jy tydens jou ervaring inligting oor 'n lewe na die dood verwerf?
No
Het jy inligting verwerf oor hoe om ons lewens te leef?
No
Het jy tydens jou ervaring inligting oor die moeilike, uitdagings en swaarkry in die lewe verwerf?
No
Het jy tydens jou ervaring inligting oor liefde verwerf?
Yes, Read my account
Watter lewensveranderings het in jou lewe plaasgevind na jou ervaring?
Before, I never questioned spirituality, the afterlife, or even the meaning of life. This experience was the trigger. Since then, I have continued to follow my personal career goals while also taking others into account. I have met several people who opened me up to spiritual questioning and the life of consciousness after death. My conclusion today is that this little planet we live on is a stage, a school-planet that teaches us so that our consciousness becomes brighter and brighter.
Het jou verhoudings spesifiek verander as gevolg van jou ervaring?
Yes

Na die NDE:

Was die ervaring moeilik om in woorde uit te druk?
Yes, How do you describe perfection? Everything was perfect: the sound, the rhythm, the warmth of the voice. The accuracy of the words for my understanding. This way of making me understand on several levels at once.
Hoe akkuraat onthou jy die ervaring in vergelyking met ander lewensevenemente wat rondom die tyd van die ervaring gebeur het?
I remember the experience more accurately than other life events that occurred around the time of the experience, Like all the extraordinary experiences I have had in my life, it is unforgettable.
Het jy enige psigiese, ongewone of ander spesiale gawes ná jou ervaring wat jy nie voor die ervaring gehad het nie?
Yes, Even before
Het jy al ooit hierdie ervaring met ander gedeel?
Yes
Het jy enige kennis van byna-dood ervarings (NDE) gehad vóór jou ervaring?
No
Wat het jy geglo oor die werklikheid van jou ervaring kort nadat dit gebeur het (dae tot weke)?
Experience was definitely real, Evidence in the journal
Wat glo jy nou oor die werklikheid van jou ervaring?
Experience was definitely real
Het enigiets ooit enige deel van die ervaring weergee in enige stadium van jou lewe?
Yes
Het die vrae wat gevra is en die inligting wat jy verskaf het jou ervaring akkuraat en omvattend beskryf?
No