Martine T
SOBE
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At that moment, I felt myself leave my body, projected against the ceiling of the room, but without seeing anything at all. Total blackness. I knew they were below because I could hear them talking, but I couldn't do anything.
August 1990, Avignon.
I was pregnant, nearing the end of my term. My gynecologist and I had decided to schedule an appointment to induce labor. My daughter was already a good size, and I wasn't necessarily built to have babies, especially not robust ones. Having her two weeks before the due date increased the chances of a natural birth.
So they gave me an injection of some product to induce contractions. This lasted all afternoon; contractions every three minutes, but no dilation. Then they injected me with another product, this time to stop the contractions, so I could have a peaceful night before trying again the next day.
August 21, 1990, 9:00 a.m. A new attempt: contractions every three minutes until 6:00 p.m. I was completely exhausted by the late afternoon. At that moment, the midwife and my gynecologist told me they were going to break my water to help the baby come out, as she was also starting to get tired. Waiting any longer could have become dangerous.
My gynecologist broke my water and... nothing happened. The baby didn't come out. They then suggested a cesarean section. The anesthesiologist arrived and gave me an epidural. Then he came back a few minutes later and pinched the inside of my thigh. It hurt. We had to face the fact that the epidural hadn't worked.
Somewhat embarrassed, he informed me he could not administer another one. After consulting, the decision was made: the only solution left was general anesthesia to perform the cesarean. By this time, it was already 9:00 p.m., and I was sad, disappointed, and tired.
I found myself in the operating room, and the anesthesiologist put me to sleep. Once again, the anesthesia didn't work properly because I remember hearing my daughter cry. I also heard the midwife complimenting this "beautiful" baby and the gynecologist calling her "magnificent." I was very proud.
At that moment, I felt myself leave my body, projected against the ceiling of the room, but without seeing anything at all. Total blackness. I knew they were below because I could hear them talking, but I couldn't do anything. I realized in that instant that we are only spirit. It was a first shock, but a positive shock, a wonder, a great discovery.
A few seconds later, I began to hear voices. A man and a woman told me that if I went with them, I would no longer be in pain, that my daughter was beautiful and she didn't need me anymore, that I had done what I had to do and I could leave. I refused, telling them my daughter needed me, that I had to raise her, that I didn't want to go with them. They insisted, and I got angry. I let out a string of curses. They concluded: "They are more numerous than us. Next time."
To explain, I felt internally that it was a battle. A battle of will, of spirit; it was a temptation. They argued for me to come with them, as if to turn me away from my responsibility as a mother. But I wanted to think of my daughter before thinking of myself. I had no desire to go with them. Again, I saw nothing, but through their voices, I felt they were dangerous.
I ended up exhausted, spent, but I was finally able to return to my body.
Twenty years later, I researched it and learned it was an NDE (Near Death Experience). And so it was a negative NDE. I am still convinced today that if I had accepted the offer from those voices, if I had told them I would go with them, I would never have returned to my body.
It's obvious to me, I am absolutely certain. I know because I lived it. No one can convince me it's impossible because for me it is not a belief but a certainty, given that it is what I experienced.
Later, in the recovery room, just before waking up, I heard a man's voice, warm, powerful, and resonant as if in a church. It said to me: "Martine, yesterday you fought the devil, that is good. Thanks to you, tomorrow the hostages will be released." And I woke up right after with the pleasant feeling of being in a warm bath. For context, this was referring to a hostage situation that was ongoing during the Gulf War with Saddam Hussein. A dramatic context where each day brought its share of anxiety-inducing news.
The fact that this voice said my name, Martine, surprised me a great deal. I thought, "Oh, they know me." And then, I immediately felt the voice was that of God. That is still my firm conviction today. The notions of time it included in what it said really seemed like means it was very deliberately giving me to later verify the coherence of the events.
At the same time, I had a very strong feeling of smallness; I was in awe. But I also felt I didn't deserve this contact. Many people search for God, and yet He speaks to me, a small thing who didn't think of Him before, who made fun of the subject when it was brought up in family discussions.
I would also add that when He spoke to me, the information He transmitted existed on several levels and weren't just auditory or vocal. It was like Egyptian hieroglyphs, with each letter forming its own sound and, when added together, forming the word and the entire sentence. Then an image to aid understanding. The sentence He pronounced was relatively short, quick to hear and assimilate. Yet, in my mind, it took up a lot of space. I understood the first and primary message: it was a personal congratulation and encouragement. But simultaneously, when He said "thanks to you," I understood more than just those three words. I understood it was thanks to the fact that ultimately everything works that way. Thanks to the way the universe works, where choosing good, choosing the Other (since I was choosing my daughter), necessarily triggers a positive chain reaction; it will necessarily have repercussions on a much larger scale and for the good.
From a small act of compassion towards anything, at any level, will follow a chain of light somewhere in the universe. Just like the slightest grain of sand falling on still water will create its share of waves crossing the entire surface.
I also had an image when this voice spoke to me. I saw the little ball that was the Earth, our planet, and it seemed wrapped in a net. Each thread of this net lit up with a blue light that circulated at high speed through this terrestrial network. I knew immediately that the blue light represented a good deed, as if it were an energy, the energy of love. The earth seemed to regenerate.
NDE:n tapahtuessa
1/1/1990
Kokemuksesi aikana, oliko siihen liittyvä hengenvaarallinen tapahtuma?
No, Childbirth, While under general anesthesia
Miten arvioisit kokemuksesi sisältöä?
Both pleasant AND distressing
Tunsitko olosi eroavasi kehostasi?
I clearly left my body and existed outside it
Miten kokemusajan korkein tietoisuuden ja valppauden tasosi vertautui normaaliin päivittäiseen tietoisuuteen ja valppauteen?
More consciousness and alertness than normal, It woke me up
Milloin kokemuksen aikana olit korkeimmalla tietoisuuden ja valppauden tasolla?
Before waking up
Olivatko ajatuksesi nopeutuneet?
No
Tuntuiko ajankulku nopeutuvan tai hidastuvan?
No
Olivatko aistisi tavallista elävämpiä?
No
Vertaa kokemuksesi näkemistä tavalliseen näkökykyysi, joka sinulla oli välittömästi ennen kokemusta
I saw nothing
Vertaa kokemuksesi kuuloa tavalliseen kuuloosi, joka sinulla oli välittömästi ennen kokemusta
Same
Olitko tietoinen tapahtumista muualla?
No
Kuljitko tai läpi tunnelin?
No
Näkyikö kokemuksessasi mitään olentoja?
No
Kohtasitko tai tulitko tietoiseksi mistään edesmenneistä (tai elävistä) olennoista?
No
Näitkö tai tunsitko olevasi kirkkaan valon ympäröimä?
No
Näitkö epätavallisen valon?
No
Tuntuiko sinusta, että astuit johonkin toiseen, yliluonnolliseen maailmaan?
Some unfamiliar and strange place, Total darkness
Mitkä tunteet koit kokemuksen aikana?
Which one?
Tunsitko rauhaa tai miellyttävyyttä?
Relief or calmness
Tunsitko harmoniaa tai yhtenäisyyttä universumin kanssa?
No
Tuntuiko äkillisesti siltä, että ymmärsit kaiken?
No
Näkyivätkö tulevaisuuden kohtaukset sinulle?
No
Tulitko rajalle tai pisteeseen, josta ei ole paluuta?
No
Mikä uskonto sinulla oli ennen kokemustasi?
Unaffiliated- Atheist
Onko uskonnollinen käytäntösi muuttunut kokemuksesi jälkeen?
Yes
Mikä on uskontoasi nyt?
Christian- Mormon
Sisältyikö kokemukseesi piirteitä, jotka olivat linjassa maallisten uskomustesi kanssa?
Content that was entirely not consistent with the beliefs you had at the time of your experience, Everything
Tuliko arvoihisi ja uskomuksiisi muutoksia kokemuksesi takia?
Yes, Questioning the meaning of life
Tuntuiko sinusta, että kohtasit mystisen olennon tai läsnäolon, tai kuulit tunnistamattoman äänen?
I encountered a definite being, or a voice clearly of mystical or unearthly origin, Read my account
Kokemuksesi aikana, saiko tietoa universaalista yhteydestä tai ykseydestä?
Yes, Read my account
Kokemuksesi aikana, saiko erityistä tietoa tai tietoa tarkoituksestasi?
No
Kokemuksesi aikana, saiko tietoa elämän merkityksestä?
No
Saitko kokemuksesi aikana tietoa tuonpuoleisesta?
No
Saitko tietoa siitä, miten elämme elämämme?
No
Saitko kokemuksesi aikana tietoa elämän vaikeuksista, haasteista ja koettelemuksista?
No
Saitko kokemuksesi aikana tietoa rakkaudesta?
Yes, Read my account
Mitä elämänmuutoksia tapahtui elämässäsi kokemuksesi jälkeen?
Before, I never questioned spirituality, the afterlife, or even the meaning of life. This experience was the trigger. Since then, I have continued to follow my personal career goals while also taking others into account. I have met several people who opened me up to spiritual questioning and the life of consciousness after death. My conclusion today is that this little planet we live on is a stage, a school-planet that teaches us so that our consciousness becomes brighter and brighter.
Ovatko ihmissuhteesi muuttuneet erityisesti kokemuksesi seurauksena?
Yes
Oliko kokemusta vaikea ilmaista sanoin?
Yes, How do you describe perfection? Everything was perfect: the sound, the rhythm, the warmth of the voice. The accuracy of the words for my understanding. This way of making me understand on several levels at once.
Kuinka tarkasti muistat kokemuksen verrattuna muihin elämän tapahtumiin, jotka tapahtuivat kokemuksen aikana?
I remember the experience more accurately than other life events that occurred around the time of the experience, Like all the extraordinary experiences I have had in my life, it is unforgettable.
Onko sinulla kokemuksesi jälkeen psyykkisiä, epätavallisia tai muita erityisiä lahjoja, joita sinulla ei ollut ennen kokemusta?
Yes, Even before
Oletko koskaan jakanut tätä kokemusta muiden kanssa?
Yes
Oliko sinulla tietoa kuolemanrajakokemuksista (NDE) ennen kokemustasi?
No
Mitä olit mieltä kokemuksesi todellisuudesta heti sen tapahtuessa (päivien tai viikkojen ajan)?
Experience was definitely real, Evidence in the journal
Mitä mieltä olet kokemuksesi todellisuudesta nyt?
Experience was definitely real
Oletko koskaan elämäsi aikana kokenut mitään, mikä olisi toistanut osan kokemuksesta?
Yes
Kuvaavatko kysytyt kysymykset ja antamasi tiedot kokemuksesi tarkasti ja kattavasti?
No