SOBE
Skala Greysona: 6
#33111
August 1990, Avignon.
I was pregnant, nearing the end of my term. My gynecologist and I had decided to schedule an appointment to induce labor. My daughter was already a good size, and I wasn't necessarily built to have babies, especially not robust ones. Having her two weeks before the due date increased the chances of a natural birth.
So they gave me an injection of some product to induce contractions. This lasted all afternoon; contractions every three minutes, but no dilation. Then they injected me with another product, this time to stop the contractions, so I could have a peaceful night before trying again the next day.
August 21, 1990, 9:00 a.m. A new attempt: contractions every three minutes until 6:00 p.m. I was completely exhausted by the late afternoon. At that moment, the midwife and my gynecologist told me they were going to break my water to help the baby come out, as she was also starting to get tired. Waiting any longer could have become dangerous.
My gynecologist broke my water and... nothing happened. The baby didn't come out. They then suggested a cesarean section. The anesthesiologist arrived and gave me an epidural. Then he came back a few minutes later and pinched the inside of my thigh. It hurt. We had to face the fact that the epidural hadn't worked.
Somewhat embarrassed, he informed me he could not administer another one. After consulting, the decision was made: the only solution left was general anesthesia to perform the cesarean. By this time, it was already 9:00 p.m., and I was sad, disappointed, and tired.
I found myself in the operating room, and the anesthesiologist put me to sleep. Once again, the anesthesia didn't work properly because I remember hearing my daughter cry. I also heard the midwife complimenting this "beautiful" baby and the gynecologist calling her "magnificent." I was very proud.
At that moment, I felt myself leave my body, projected against the ceiling of the room, but without seeing anything at all. Total blackness. I knew they were below because I could hear them talking, but I couldn't do anything. I realized in that instant that we are only spirit. It was a first shock, but a positive shock, a wonder, a great discovery.
A few seconds later, I began to hear voices. A man and a woman told me that if I went with them, I would no longer be in pain, that my daughter was beautiful and she didn't need me anymore, that I had done what I had to do and I could leave. I refused, telling them my daughter needed me, that I had to raise her, that I didn't want to go with them. They insisted, and I got angry. I let out a string of curses. They concluded: "They are more numerous than us. Next time."
To explain, I felt internally that it was a battle. A battle of will, of spirit; it was a temptation. They argued for me to come with them, as if to turn me away from my responsibility as a mother. But I wanted to think of my daughter before thinking of myself. I had no desire to go with them. Again, I saw nothing, but through their voices, I felt they were dangerous.
I ended up exhausted, spent, but I was finally able to return to my body.
Twenty years later, I researched it and learned it was an NDE (Near Death Experience). And so it was a negative NDE. I am still convinced today that if I had accepted the offer from those voices, if I had told them I would go with them, I would never have returned to my body.
It's obvious to me, I am absolutely certain. I know because I lived it. No one can convince me it's impossible because for me it is not a belief but a certainty, given that it is what I experienced.
Later, in the recovery room, just before waking up, I heard a man's voice, warm, powerful, and resonant as if in a church. It said to me: "Martine, yesterday you fought the devil, that is good. Thanks to you, tomorrow the hostages will be released." And I woke up right after with the pleasant feeling of being in a warm bath. For context, this was referring to a hostage situation that was ongoing during the Gulf War with Saddam Hussein. A dramatic context where each day brought its share of anxiety-inducing news.
The fact that this voice said my name, Martine, surprised me a great deal. I thought, "Oh, they know me." And then, I immediately felt the voice was that of God. That is still my firm conviction today. The notions of time it included in what it said really seemed like means it was very deliberately giving me to later verify the coherence of the events.
At the same time, I had a very strong feeling of smallness; I was in awe. But I also felt I didn't deserve this contact. Many people search for God, and yet He speaks to me, a small thing who didn't think of Him before, who made fun of the subject when it was brought up in family discussions.
I would also add that when He spoke to me, the information He transmitted existed on several levels and weren't just auditory or vocal. It was like Egyptian hieroglyphs, with each letter forming its own sound and, when added together, forming the word and the entire sentence. Then an image to aid understanding. The sentence He pronounced was relatively short, quick to hear and assimilate. Yet, in my mind, it took up a lot of space. I understood the first and primary message: it was a personal congratulation and encouragement. But simultaneously, when He said "thanks to you," I understood more than just those three words. I understood it was thanks to the fact that ultimately everything works that way. Thanks to the way the universe works, where choosing good, choosing the Other (since I was choosing my daughter), necessarily triggers a positive chain reaction; it will necessarily have repercussions on a much larger scale and for the good.
From a small act of compassion towards anything, at any level, will follow a chain of light somewhere in the universe. Just like the slightest grain of sand falling on still water will create its share of waves crossing the entire surface.
I also had an image when this voice spoke to me. I saw the little ball that was the Earth, our planet, and it seemed wrapped in a net. Each thread of this net lit up with a blue light that circulated at high speed through this terrestrial network. I knew immediately that the blue light represented a good deed, as if it were an energy, the energy of love. The earth seemed to regenerate.
Spol
Female
Datum kada se dogodio NDE
1/1/1990
Je li u vrijeme vašeg iskustva postojao povezani događaj opasan po život?
No, Childbirth, While under general anesthesia
Kako smatrate sadržaj svog iskustva?
Both pleasant AND distressing
Jeste li se osjećali odvojeno od svog tijela?
I clearly left my body and existed outside it
Kako se vaša najviša razina svijesti i budnosti tijekom iskustva uspoređuje s vašom uobičajenom svakodnevnom sviješću i budnošću?
More consciousness and alertness than normal, It woke me up
U koje ste vrijeme tijekom iskustva bili na najvišoj razini svijesti i budnosti?
Before waking up
Jesu li vam se misli ubrzale?
No
Je li se činilo da se vrijeme ubrzava ili usporava?
No
Jesu li vam osjetila bila življa nego obično?
No
Molimo vas da usporedite svoj vid tijekom iskustva sa svojim svakodnevnim vidom neposredno prije samog iskustva
I saw nothing
Molimo vas da usporedite svoj sluh tijekom iskustva sa svojim svakodnevnim sluhom neposredno prije samog iskustva
Same
Jeste li bili svjesni stvari koje se događaju drugdje?
No
Jeste li prošli u ili kroz tunel?
No
Jeste li vidjeli bilo kakva bića u svom iskustvu?
No
Jeste li susreli ili postali svjesni bilo kakvih preminulih (ili živih) bića?
No
Jeste li vidjeli ili se osjećali okruženi briljantnom svjetlošću?
No
Jeste li vidjeli nezemaljsku svjetlost?
No
Činilo se da ste ušli u neki drugi, nezemaljski svijet?
Some unfamiliar and strange place, Total darkness
Koje ste emocije osjećali tijekom iskustva?
Which one?
Jeste li osjećali mir ili ugodu?
Relief or calmness
Jeste li osjećali radost?
No
Jeste li osjetili osjećaj sklada ili jedinstva sa svemirom?
No
Jeste li odjednom shvatili sve?
No
Jesu li vam se prikazale scene iz budućnosti?
No
Jeste li došli do granice ili točke bez povratka?
No
Koja je bila vaša religija prije vašeg iskustva?
Unaffiliated- Atheist
Jesu li se vaše vjerske prakse promijenile od vašeg iskustva?
Yes
Koja je vaša religija sada?
Christian- Mormon
Je li vaše iskustvo uključivalo značajke u skladu s vašim zemaljskim uvjerenjima?
Content that was entirely not consistent with the beliefs you had at the time of your experience, Everything
Jeste li imali promjenu u svojim vrijednostima i uvjerenjima zbog vašeg iskustva?
Yes, Questioning the meaning of life
Jeste li se činili da ste susreli mistično biće ili prisutnost, ili čuli neidentificirani glas?
I encountered a definite being, or a voice clearly of mystical or unearthly origin, Read my account
Jeste li tijekom svog iskustva stekli informacije o univerzalnoj povezanosti ili jedinstvu?
Yes, Read my account
Jeste li tijekom svog iskustva stekli posebno znanje ili informacije o svojoj svrsi?
No
Jeste li tijekom svog iskustva stekli informacije o smislu života?
No
Jeste li tijekom svog iskustva stekli informacije o zagrobnom životu?
No
Jeste li stekli informacije o tome kako živjeti svoje živote?
No
Jeste li tijekom svog iskustva stekli informacije o životnim poteškoćama, izazovima i nedaćama?
No
Jeste li tijekom svog iskustva stekli informacije o ljubavi?
Yes, Read my account
Koje su se životne promjene dogodile u vašem životu nakon vašeg iskustva?
Before, I never questioned spirituality, the afterlife, or even the meaning of life. This experience was the trigger. Since then, I have continued to follow my personal career goals while also taking others into account. I have met several people who opened me up to spiritual questioning and the life of consciousness after death. My conclusion today is that this little planet we live on is a stage, a school-planet that teaches us so that our consciousness becomes brighter and brighter.
Jesu li se vaši odnosi promijenili konkretno kao rezultat vašeg iskustva?
Yes
Je li iskustvo bilo teško izraziti riječima?
Yes, How do you describe perfection? Everything was perfect: the sound, the rhythm, the warmth of the voice. The accuracy of the words for my understanding. This way of making me understand on several levels at once.
Koliko se točno sjećate iskustva u usporedbi s drugim životnim događajima koji su se dogodili otprilike u to vrijeme?
I remember the experience more accurately than other life events that occurred around the time of the experience, Like all the extraordinary experiences I have had in my life, it is unforgettable.
Imate li psihičke, neobične ili druge posebne darove nakon vašeg iskustva koje niste imali prije iskustva?
Yes, Even before
Jeste li ikada podijelili ovo iskustvo s drugima?
Yes
Jeste li imali bilo kakvo znanje o iskustvu bliske smrti (NDE) prije vašeg iskustva?
No
Što ste vjerovali o stvarnosti svog iskustva ubrzo (dane do tjedana) nakon što se dogodilo?
Experience was definitely real, Evidence in the journal
U što sada vjerujete o stvarnosti svog iskustva?
Experience was definitely real
Je li u bilo kojem trenutku vašeg života išta reproduciralo bilo koji dio iskustva?
Yes
Jesu li postavljena pitanja i informacije koje ste pružili točno i sveobuhvatno opisali vaše iskustvo?
No