Lois M
NDE
Skala Greysona: 12
#3375
- DržavaUnited States
- SpolF
- DobOlder Child
- Datum doživljaja1/1/1964
- Datum slanja11/12/2007
Iskustvo je uključivalo
Vrijeme je izgubilo svaki smisaoVidjenje svoje prošlosti (Pregled života)Vidjeti jarko nezemaljsko svjetloRazvijanje psihičkih sposobnostiRazumijevanje svega o svemiruOBE, Iskustvo izvan tijelaOsjećaj jedinstva sa svemiromVjerojatno su doživjeli kliničku smrtOBE, Observed concurrent events away from bodyDuhovni svijet stvarniji od fizičke stvarnostiOsjećaj kao da su se vratili kućiObjašnjava svrhu pojedinačnih životaVrijeme je iluzija i ne postoji u duhovnom svijetuVidjeli boje koje nikada prije nisu viđeneVratili se protiv svoje volje
Opis iskustva
I was on vacation with my mother, father, a friend of mine and her mother in Kentucky. We went to Dewy Dam, which I believe is not far from Van Lear, Kentucky. We rented a small boat and when we got to a shallow spot at the lake my dad, my friend and I went swimming. I couldn't swim so my dad went in the water first to make sure it was a shallow spot, so the water wouldn't be above my shoulders.
We were in the water, playing, screwing around and laughing when suddenly I stepped backwards and stepped off a ledge into very deep water. I couldn't swim so I was sinking under the water. My dad and friend thought I was still screwing around and was laughing at me. In the beginning I remember struggling when I breached the top of the water, but after going down a couple of times, I wasn't struggling anymore when I went under. I was at peace and had no fear. Everything became extremely beautiful. The lights and colors in the water were so beautiful that I was captivated and mesmerized by them.
I saw colors that don't exist. The lights were sparkling and bright and yet soft and inviting, they were comforting; it was like I was a part of the lights and colors. The peace was so calming and desirable that I felt a part of something very much larger, like I was one with the universe. During this experience I felt what it feels like to have no time, it was timeless, no boundaries of time. It was an amazing feeling, the freedom of no time and the connection with 'the universe' (I use that word simply because the universe is vast but I felt it was more than the universe as we know it).
Then, suddenly, I was floating above the area and looking down and saw my mother and my friend's mother still in the boat, I saw my dad and friend in the water. My mother was scared and yelling at my dad to pull me out of the water. My dad was laughing and said, 'Oh Helen, she's just playing, we're all just fooling around.' And then I saw myself pop up above the water again, and it looked like I was panicked, frightened, and struggling for my life. My mother became desperate and mad at my father, and as I again went underwater, I heard her insist that he drag me out of the water.
But, when I went under again, I was puzzled, I didn't understand why I briefly struggled and panicked when I resurfaced because in reality, I wanted to go back under because everything was so beautiful and amazing under the water, it was tranquil, and the feeling of oneness and timelessness was what I wanted to go back to. I didn't understand why my body struggled and showed fear because that isn't the way I felt at all. I didn't want to resurface, I wanted to stay below the water, and I was happy there, happier than I can ever remember being before or since the experience.
The next thing that happened is that I felt my dad pull me up from the water and pull me to the boat trying to resuscitate me. I felt very heavy in weight, so heavy that it amazed me that my body could be so heavy. It felt so heavy that it was laborious to adjust to being in my body again. I was coughing and sputtering, water was stinging my eyes and I felt a panic also return to my body that didn't exist when I was under the water, but, the strange thing was that those signs of panic and fear were only in my body, not my mind. I didn't feel those things in my mind. What I was feeling was disappointment about being taken out of such a beautiful, amazing, wonderful place.
We were in the water, playing, screwing around and laughing when suddenly I stepped backwards and stepped off a ledge into very deep water. I couldn't swim so I was sinking under the water. My dad and friend thought I was still screwing around and was laughing at me. In the beginning I remember struggling when I breached the top of the water, but after going down a couple of times, I wasn't struggling anymore when I went under. I was at peace and had no fear. Everything became extremely beautiful. The lights and colors in the water were so beautiful that I was captivated and mesmerized by them.
I saw colors that don't exist. The lights were sparkling and bright and yet soft and inviting, they were comforting; it was like I was a part of the lights and colors. The peace was so calming and desirable that I felt a part of something very much larger, like I was one with the universe. During this experience I felt what it feels like to have no time, it was timeless, no boundaries of time. It was an amazing feeling, the freedom of no time and the connection with 'the universe' (I use that word simply because the universe is vast but I felt it was more than the universe as we know it).
Then, suddenly, I was floating above the area and looking down and saw my mother and my friend's mother still in the boat, I saw my dad and friend in the water. My mother was scared and yelling at my dad to pull me out of the water. My dad was laughing and said, 'Oh Helen, she's just playing, we're all just fooling around.' And then I saw myself pop up above the water again, and it looked like I was panicked, frightened, and struggling for my life. My mother became desperate and mad at my father, and as I again went underwater, I heard her insist that he drag me out of the water.
But, when I went under again, I was puzzled, I didn't understand why I briefly struggled and panicked when I resurfaced because in reality, I wanted to go back under because everything was so beautiful and amazing under the water, it was tranquil, and the feeling of oneness and timelessness was what I wanted to go back to. I didn't understand why my body struggled and showed fear because that isn't the way I felt at all. I didn't want to resurface, I wanted to stay below the water, and I was happy there, happier than I can ever remember being before or since the experience.
The next thing that happened is that I felt my dad pull me up from the water and pull me to the boat trying to resuscitate me. I felt very heavy in weight, so heavy that it amazed me that my body could be so heavy. It felt so heavy that it was laborious to adjust to being in my body again. I was coughing and sputtering, water was stinging my eyes and I felt a panic also return to my body that didn't exist when I was under the water, but, the strange thing was that those signs of panic and fear were only in my body, not my mind. I didn't feel those things in my mind. What I was feeling was disappointment about being taken out of such a beautiful, amazing, wonderful place.
Osnovne informacije
Gender:
Female
Date NDE Occurred:
Summer 1964
NDE Elementi
Je li u vrijeme vašeg iskustva postojao povezani događaj opasan po život?
Yes Accident Life threatening event, but not clinical death
I was drowning.
Kako smatrate sadržaj svog iskustva?
Wonderful
Iskustvo je uključivalo
Out of body experience
Jeste li se osjećali odvojeno od svog tijela?
Yes
I clearly left my body and existed outside it
Kako se vaša najviša razina svijesti i budnosti tijekom iskustva uspoređuje s vašom uobičajenom svakodnevnom sviješću i budnošću?
More consciousness and alertness than normal When I was under the water.
U koje ste vrijeme tijekom iskustva bili na najvišoj razini svijesti i budnosti?
When I was under the water.
Jesu li vam se misli ubrzale?
Incredibly fast
Je li se činilo da se vrijeme ubrzava ili usporava?
Everything seemed to be happening at once; or time stopped or lost all meaning
There was no time, saying it was timeless doesn't really describe what it was like. I can still feel what it feels like (time does not exist) but no words can really describe it. Regarding space, there was no space either, everything was one, connected, again, there is really no word that fully describes this knowledge.
Jesu li vam osjetila bila življa nego obično?
Incredibly more vivid
Molimo vas da usporedite svoj vid tijekom iskustva sa svojim svakodnevnim vidom neposredno prije samog iskustva
As I said before, I saw colors that don't exist. And even though the light was brighter than I had ever seen it didn't hurt the eyes, in fact, it soothed the eyes and appeared soft and bright at the same time. I can't say that there was depth perception as we know it - it was greater than that - again, like a oneness and all things perceived in its entirety. I learned from that experience that there is such a thing as 'the mind's eye'.
Molimo vas da usporedite svoj sluh tijekom iskustva sa svojim svakodnevnim sluhom neposredno prije samog iskustva
'Hearing' as we know it, isn't the same. 'Hearing' as we know it is just one part of our other senses, it is separate. During this experience there was no separation of senses, they were all connected, they were one, and being one made everything super remarkable and amazing.
Jeste li bili svjesni stvari koje se događaju drugdje?
Yes, and the facts have been checked out
Jeste li prošli u ili kroz tunel?
No
Jeste li vidjeli bilo kakva bića u svom iskustvu?
I actually saw them
Jeste li susreli ili postali svjesni bilo kakvih preminulih (ili živih) bića?
Yes I didn't meet or see other beings, but I could 'feel' and 'sense' mystical entities around me, as if they were waiting. I didn't get the impression that I knew them.
Iskustvo je uključivalo
Light
Jeste li vidjeli ili se osjećali okruženi briljantnom svjetlošću?
A light clearly of mystical or other-worldly origin
Jeste li vidjeli nezemaljsku svjetlost?
Yes As described above.
Činilo se da ste ušli u neki drugi, nezemaljski svijet?
A clearly mystical or unearthly realm My experience felt like I was in another dimension.
Koje ste još emocije osjećali tijekom iskustva?
Wonder, amazement, pleasantness, peace, lightness, happiness, freeing, longing to stay, feeling of being 'home'.
Jeste li osjećali mir ili ugodu?
Incredible peace or pleasantness
Jeste li osjećali radost?
incredible joy
Jeste li osjetili osjećaj sklada ili jedinstva sa svemirom?
I felt united or one with the world
Iskustvo je uključivalo
Special Knowledge
Jeste li odjednom shvatili sve?
Everything about the universe
Jesu li vam se vratile scene iz prošlosti?
My past flashed before me, out of my control
Jesu li vam se prikazale scene iz budućnosti?
Scenes from the world's future
Jeste li došli do granice ili točke bez povratka?
I came to a barrier that I was not permitted to cross; or was sent back against my will
Bog, duhovnost i religija
Koja je bila vaša religija prije vašeg iskustva?
Moderate
Jesu li se vaše vjerske prakse promijenile od vašeg iskustva?
No
Koja je vaša religija sada?
Moderate
Jeste li imali promjenu u svojim vrijednostima i uvjerenjima zbog vašeg iskustva?
No
Iskustvo je uključivalo
Presence of unearthly beings
Jeste li se činili da ste susreli mistično biće ili prisutnost, ili čuli neidentificirani glas?
I encountered a definite being, or a voice clearly of mystical or unearthly origin
Jeste li vidjeli preminule ili religiozne duhove?
I actually saw them
Što se tiče naših zemaljskih života osim religije
Jeste li tijekom svog iskustva stekli posebno znanje ili informacije o svojoj svrsi?
Yes I'm not sure you would call it 'special knowledge', I wasn't given any revelation or anything, but, I just simply knew, for a fact, without question, that everything is connected, that our reality 'here' is only a fleeting and cumbersome short period of time. Only a blink of an eye perhaps. But, I did learn that there IS a reason, a purpose for our life here - but, I wasn't told what that reason/purpose is. The only strange thing I can remember is the thought that stuck in my mind after this is experience was 'The important thing is to make it shine, everything else is folly.' Those are not the exact 'words in my thoughts' but it was something like that.
Jesu li se vaši odnosi promijenili konkretno kao rezultat vašeg iskustva?
No
Nakon NDE-a
Je li iskustvo bilo teško izraziti riječima?
Yes Our vocabulary doesn't have the capacity to express much of the experience.
Imate li psihičke, neobične ili druge posebne darove nakon vašeg iskustva koje niste imali prije iskustva?
Yes I developed an ability to 'read' people, to become one with them and understand many things about them without them having to tell me. Even until today, most of the time I could not tell you the color of friends and relatives eyes (unless I deliberately commit it to memory) because when I converse with them I do not see their eyes, I see through them, past the eyes. It is difficult to explain, but if I want to see the person's eyes I have to deliberately focus on them because otherwise my natural instinct now is that my mind doesn't see them.
Postoje li jedan ili nekoliko dijelova vašeg iskustva koji su vam posebno smisleni ili značajni? Molimo objasnite.
Every part of the experience was meaningful and significant to me.
Jeste li ikada podijelili ovo iskustvo s drugima?
Yes I have shared this story for many years with family and selected friends. I didn't start sharing it until a few years after the incident. There have been mixed reactions, of course, to it, some people believe you and some don't. Some find it fascinating some view it as imagination. I don't have a desire or urgency to make people believe it. I tell it and then it's up to them how or what they want to think about it.
Jeste li imali bilo kakvo znanje o iskustvu bliske smrti (NDE) prije vašeg iskustva?
No
Što ste vjerovali o stvarnosti svog iskustva ubrzo (dane do tjedana) nakon što se dogodilo?
Experience was definitely real There is no doubt in my mind it was real.
U što sada vjerujete o stvarnosti svog iskustva?
Experience was definitely real There is no doubt in my mind it was real.
Je li u bilo kojem trenutku vašeg života išta reproduciralo bilo koji dio iskustva?
Yes Several years after the drowning incident I did have one other experience. I will use another form to tell you about that.
Postoji li još nešto što biste željeli dodati o svom iskustvu?
Only that there is another reality, another realm, another dimension.
Postoje li još neka pitanja koja bismo mogli postaviti kako bismo vam pomogli da opišete svoje iskustvo?
I'll give this question some thought but as for the present I think the questionnaire is very good.