Robert B
NDE
Greyson-schaal: 23
#2379
- LandUnited States
- GeslachtM
- LeeftijdOlder Child
- Datum ervaren3/31/1957
- Datum ingediend12/4/2005
De ervaring omvatte
Tijd verloor alle betekenisHet zien van hun verleden (Levensoverzicht)Het zien van hun toekomstEen helder onaards licht zienPsychische vermogens ontwikkelenAlles begrijpen over het universumOBE, Buitenlichamelijke ervaringZich één voelen met het universumHeeft waarschijnlijk klinische dood ervarenOBE, Observed concurrent events away from bodyDe spirituele wereld is echters dan de fysieke realiteitVoelde alsof ze naar huis terugkeerdenBDE-waarnemingen geverifieerd met iemand andersHeeft geleerd over eigenschappen van de kwantumfysicaHerinnert zich details van wat ze hebben geleerd over kwantumfysicaTijd is een illusie en bestaat niet in de spirituele wereldBesloot om terug te komen naar het leven
Ervaringsbeschrijving
It began on a drizzly Sunday morning on March 31, 1957. While attempting to hoist a number of aluminum sections into the air for a short-wave antenna, it came in contact with the very top 8,200 volt line. My brother released before I did but still he received burns on both his hands. I held on for the entire duration and came to observe my crumpled body still holding onto the pole. I could smell my burning flesh mixed with ozone and steam coming from this body on the ground I was rapidly losing interest in. I held until it burned through the entire thick power line.
I experienced initial pain, feeling of being skinned alive, reversed, extreme calm, peace, and many of the classic NDE elements. What others call a tunnel I have concluded is absence to such a degree the mind gives it texture. I saw the Light approach; the light enveloped me. An entity that was to prepare me for what I call my Interview with a supreme being later in the Light. This first being appeared to be the Virgin Mary. Only after asking, 'Are you truly the Virgin Mary?' did it instantly manifested its true identity. I was nearly paralyzed with fear until again asking, 'Please, what is happening to me what is going on here?' From that point, all flowed out. Humor functioning far beyond its role here, sights and images coming together with reciprocals to produce physical music. There is no time. Time is a parochial concept for humans existing in truncated physics. To behold the whole of it, you see 'physical music'.
I beheld both my mother screaming over my dead body and my father across town at the same time. I was everywhere dead and nowhere alive. What I want to stress, if you're not an active participant in this event, you will get off lightly, convinced you have seen God, an angel or a departed family member. Nice enough in itself. A joy to take with you forever but very different from the impact of a full Interview and Exchange that must be initiated by you. You pay a heavy price. Not a single day goes by I do not think of my decision to return for my mother. Not a day passes when I am not mourning and yearning to go home again.
There are bits of impossible physics surrounding my story. According to attending doctors, it is impossible my shoes were blown sixty feet away from my body or these circular scars came from 8,200 volts. The most interesting was an eye-witness account that during my electrocution I was surrounded in a blue light that did not terminate with the antenna at the pole but extended beyond, up into the low scudding clouds passing over at the time. Any check into the local newspaper files for March 31, 1957 you will find a story of two brothers putting up an antenna, my electrocution, and a strange very widespread outage of power throughout the city that Sunday morning.
I experienced initial pain, feeling of being skinned alive, reversed, extreme calm, peace, and many of the classic NDE elements. What others call a tunnel I have concluded is absence to such a degree the mind gives it texture. I saw the Light approach; the light enveloped me. An entity that was to prepare me for what I call my Interview with a supreme being later in the Light. This first being appeared to be the Virgin Mary. Only after asking, 'Are you truly the Virgin Mary?' did it instantly manifested its true identity. I was nearly paralyzed with fear until again asking, 'Please, what is happening to me what is going on here?' From that point, all flowed out. Humor functioning far beyond its role here, sights and images coming together with reciprocals to produce physical music. There is no time. Time is a parochial concept for humans existing in truncated physics. To behold the whole of it, you see 'physical music'.
I beheld both my mother screaming over my dead body and my father across town at the same time. I was everywhere dead and nowhere alive. What I want to stress, if you're not an active participant in this event, you will get off lightly, convinced you have seen God, an angel or a departed family member. Nice enough in itself. A joy to take with you forever but very different from the impact of a full Interview and Exchange that must be initiated by you. You pay a heavy price. Not a single day goes by I do not think of my decision to return for my mother. Not a day passes when I am not mourning and yearning to go home again.
There are bits of impossible physics surrounding my story. According to attending doctors, it is impossible my shoes were blown sixty feet away from my body or these circular scars came from 8,200 volts. The most interesting was an eye-witness account that during my electrocution I was surrounded in a blue light that did not terminate with the antenna at the pole but extended beyond, up into the low scudding clouds passing over at the time. Any check into the local newspaper files for March 31, 1957 you will find a story of two brothers putting up an antenna, my electrocution, and a strange very widespread outage of power throughout the city that Sunday morning.
Achtergrondinformatie
Gender:
Male
Date NDE Occurred:
March 31, 1957
NDE-elementen
Was er op het moment van uw ervaring een levensbedreigend voorval?
Yes Accident Electrocuted by top high power lines that go to the transformer before reduction. Clinical death (cessation of breathing or heart function or brain function)
I was electrocuted. All flesh on my feet burned away. There were six holes to my bones in both legs, blood exiting eyes, nose, and ears. Blood squeezed out capillaries in my chest. To this day, I still have clear circular exit hole scars on my legs. At the time, the holes were cauterized by heat and you could see to the bone. Later was shown documentation by 'experts' saying these holes could not have been produced by electricity. They also say that shoes cannot be blown sixty feet away from the person.
Hoe beschouwt u de inhoud van uw ervaring?
Wonderful
Voelde je je gescheiden van je lichaam?
Yes
I clearly left my body and existed outside it
Hoe vergeleek uw hoogste niveau van bewustzijn en waakzaamheid tijdens de ervaring met uw normale dagelijkse bewustzijn en waakzaamheid?
More consciousness and alertness than normal Duluth airport, middle of winter with a raging northern, temperatures at minus twenty-five and winds howling. On a juniper branch, a nearly dead chrysalis is encased in a lifeless motionless shroud clinging to a limb. That is human existence. That dead lifeless creature is 'Normal every day consciousness and alertness' compared to NDE.
Op welk moment tijdens de ervaring was uw bewustzijns- en waakzaamheidsniveau het hoogst?
While surely dead on the ground smoking from the pressure of the electricity still surging thorough my body, but elsewhere involved with the Supreme Being, the Interview, the Transfer, and then the terrible choice to stay or return. Seeing my mother wailing and praying I chose to return for her. The highest consciousness was prior to the wrap up of the Exchange and preparing to return.
Waren uw gedachten versneld?
Incredibly fast
Leek de tijd sneller te gaan of langzamer?
Everything seemed to be happening all at once
Question 25 is impossible for an NDE. This is the unnatural, near death, darkened and altered world. This world here. Where I was is the bright, unaltered, non-truncated and free awareness. Physics is complete. Here it is educated guesses and nested errors. So no, no 'seeming to enter' but definitely breathing and being filled with all space, time, and physics that is. Not the tiny slit of local perceptions here.
Waren je zintuigen levendiger dan normaal?
Incredibly more so
Vergelijk uw zicht tijdens de ervaring met uw dagelijkse zicht onmiddellijk voorafgaand aan de tijd van de ervaring
When you spot the pretty lady going to her car, you are not looking through a pane of office glass but living through twelve dimensions as distinct as the two worlds on each side of the office glass. The awareness of the role of these dimensions will someday show how we presently live in a world of created nested-errors.
Vergelijk uw gehoor tijdens de ervaring met uw dagelijkse gehoor onmiddellijk voorafgaand aan de tijd van de ervaring
No such thing as hearing. Speech an overlaid function and hearing purely a human function. Meaningless.
Had u de indruk dat u zich bewust was van wat er elders gebeurde?
Yes, and the facts have been checked out
Bent u door een tunnel gegaan?
Uncertain As mentioned earlier I have come to believing the mind cannot stand absence to this degree and the mind gives texture to it, therefore a tunnel. I suspect if you asked NDErs was it a tunnel or absence to such a degree you could touch it they would go with the latter. No. No tunnel but the greatest absence the mind will ever know.
Zag u wezens in uw ervaring?
Saw them
Heeft u overleden (of levende) wezens ontmoet of ervan bewust geworden?
Yes Again, the first encounter was with what I was sure was the Virgin Mary of my Catholic upbringing. The most frightful part of the NDE are the moments I took initiative and asked questions. It took a lot of moving beyond the fear to be so bold but I asked, 'Are you really the Mother Mary?' Instantly I saw what I already sensed was happening here. Every molecule in my being suddenly seemed to leap with joy on the new knowledge and understanding. No, it was not the Virgin Mary. You are approaching home. The need to have it be the Mother Mary fades.
Heeft u een schitterend licht gezien of voelde u zich eromheen omringd?
A light clearly of mystical or other-worldly origin
Heeft u een onaards licht gezien?
Yes It began as a small dot. I had no reference point on whether it was approaching me or if I was moving toward it. It enveloped me. It is Light, It is alive, and it is brilliant beyond any description. So alive, so totally home and complete love.
No human unprepared could encounter this and live. Unprepared, you die, without question.
Leek u een andere, onaardse wereld te betreden?
Neither Absolutely, very certainly there were many levels of increased consciousness and awareness. Each an awakening and sharpening. Just as you begin to be filled with the joy of waking and experiencing color, light, new physics, new compliments, symmetry, you are rushed forward to another greater awakening, no time to stop, touch or dwell on the things before you. Geometry applies here.
Welke andere emoties voelde je tijdens de ervaring?
The thirteen year old boy below me on the ground came to have no more significance than adjacent fence work or stones. At this point something magnificent is clearly approaching and preempting any temporal values.
Had je een gevoel van vrede of aangenaamheid?
Incredible peace or pleasantness
Had je een gevoel van vreugde?
Incredible joy
Voelde je een gevoel van harmonie of eenheid met het universum?
United, one with the world
Leek je plotseling alles te begrijpen?
Everything about the universe
Komen er scènes uit uw verleden naar boven?
Past flashed before me, out of my control As with my initial vision of the Virgin Mary, I have the belief similar visions of angels, or departed family members are buffers against the reality of what the mind is experiencing. Depending on the country or region, these buffers are predictable. Most accept them without question.
Kwamen er scènes uit de toekomst tot je?
From the world's future
Accurate.
Kwam je bij een grens of punt van geen terugkeer?
A conscious decision to 'return' to life
God, Spiritualiteit en Religie
Wat was uw religie voor uw ervaring?
Conservative/fundamentalist Devout Catholic and altar boy
Zijn uw religieuze praktijken veranderd sinds uw ervaring?
Yes Profoundly so. That Sunday I was electrocuted, I was a devout Catholic and altar boy that looked forward to serving Mass. Immediately after my accident and NDE a profound sense of shame that man could be so arrogant with his creation of religion. So sad and silly.
Wat is nu uw religie?
Moderate From the accident onward, spiritual and unable to see value in religious custom or dogma. Completely meaningless relative to the NDE experience. More a moderate conservative.
Had u een verandering in uw waarden en overtuigingen vanwege uw ervaring?
Yes Profoundly so. That Sunday I was electrocuted, I was a devout Catholic and altar boy that looked forward to serving Mass. Immediately after my accident and NDE a profound sense of shame that man could be so arrogant with his creation of religion. So sad and silly.
Leek u een mystiek wezen of aanwezigheid tegen te komen, of een onidentificeerbare stem te horen?
Definite being, or voice clearly of mystical or other-worldly origin
Zag u overleden of religieuze geesten?
Saw them
Met betrekking tot ons aardse leven buiten Religie
Heeft u tijdens uw ervaring speciale kennis of informatie gekregen over uw doel?
Yes Question 27. Again, no 'seem.' There is no time to speed up. All is.
Question 28. At the Transfer within the Interview. There is no library or database to hold it. There is no vocabulary or references for it. It resides just below every conscious moment.
Zijn uw relaties specifiek veranderd als gevolg van uw ervaring?
No But the fundamental grasp of the nature of things, like understanding religion and science have the same pedigree, yes, but personal relationships, few know of my NDE.
Na de NDE
Was de ervaring moeilijk in woorden uit te drukken?
Yes Sights, objects, reciprocals of known physics, for which I have no vocabulary.
Heeft u na uw ervaring enige paranormale, bijzondere of andere speciale gaven die u voor de ervaring niet had?
Yes The ability to focus on essence on a molecular and sub level. This has occurred at various times and years beyond the electrocution and without any known set of criteria.
Zijn er één of meerdere delen van uw ervaring die speciaal betekenisvol of belangrijk voor u zijn? Gelieve uit te leggen.
The Interview and The Exchange. No vocabulary. Not even a starting point do I have for this glorious event.
Physically the greatest pain was when they pulled the remainder of my socks off my feet. While waiting for the ambulance. I was on a neighbor's sofa and a lady ran in saying take his shoes and socks off. My shoes were already blown off. She reached under the blanket and pulled the bottoms of my feet off and when seeing the burnt flesh, she threw up. My tongue would not permit me to shout or talk but I knew I was back.
Heeft u deze ervaring ooit met anderen gedeeld?
Yes Twenty-five years passed before I shared my experience. The only exception I asked my mother to describe her location and actions during my electrocution. She described precisely what I saw while down and apparently unconscious on the ground many yards from the house. The very small handful (count on one hand) of people I have shared the most detail with have been very moved.
Had u enige kennis van bijna-doodervaringen (BDE) voordat u uw ervaring had?
No At thirteen years of age, it was school, serving Mass as an altar boy, discovering girls, and the very first signs of Rock N' Roll.
Wat geloofde je over de realiteit van je ervaring kort (dagen tot weken) nadat het gebeurd was?
Experience was definitely real Look around you. You live in a world right now that goes beyond cultural differences. We now move with people in realities outside our own. The experience was real but I recognize an electrical explosion in my temporal lobe can produce its own reality. Do I subscribe to NDE being this? Absolutely not.
Wat geloof je nu over de realiteit van je ervaring?
Experience was definitely real Not a single bit of information as left my memory. Questions 40 and 41 implies it fades. Not a single item.
Heeft op enig moment in uw leven iets ooit een deel van de ervaring gereproduceerd?
No Nothing even close.
Is er nog iets anders dat u zou willen toevoegen over uw ervaring?
I have come to learn very few NDEs have had the strength and courage to be active during the experience, to ask, and as a result of this strength, to be taken into The Exchange. 99.9% of what would follow here is of no human value or meaning. It is also the essence of most of my joy.
Zijn er andere vragen die we kunnen stellen om je te helpen je ervaring te communiceren?
I would create some questions that address the memory of outbound versus complete loss of memory of inbound or the return part of the NDE. Also some questions that reveal how the NDE perceives the dual and complimenting roles of religion and science (two sides of one thing). Also invite discussions specific to matters and the role of things sub-atomic.
However, this is a very good questionnaire as is. Thank you!