Martine T

SOBE Greyson-schaal: 6
#33111

Ervaringsbeschrijving

August 1990, Avignon. I was pregnant, nearing the end of my term. My gynecologist and I had decided to schedule an appointment to induce labor. My daughter was already a good size, and I wasn't necessarily built to have babies, especially not robust ones. Having her two weeks before the due date increased the chances of a natural birth. So they gave me an injection of some product to induce contractions. This lasted all afternoon; contractions every three minutes, but no dilation. Then they injected me with another product, this time to stop the contractions, so I could have a peaceful night before trying again the next day. August 21, 1990, 9:00 a.m. A new attempt: contractions every three minutes until 6:00 p.m. I was completely exhausted by the late afternoon. At that moment, the midwife and my gynecologist told me they were going to break my water to help the baby come out, as she was also starting to get tired. Waiting any longer could have become dangerous. My gynecologist broke my water and... nothing happened. The baby didn't come out. They then suggested a cesarean section. The anesthesiologist arrived and gave me an epidural. Then he came back a few minutes later and pinched the inside of my thigh. It hurt. We had to face the fact that the epidural hadn't worked. Somewhat embarrassed, he informed me he could not administer another one. After consulting, the decision was made: the only solution left was general anesthesia to perform the cesarean. By this time, it was already 9:00 p.m., and I was sad, disappointed, and tired. I found myself in the operating room, and the anesthesiologist put me to sleep. Once again, the anesthesia didn't work properly because I remember hearing my daughter cry. I also heard the midwife complimenting this "beautiful" baby and the gynecologist calling her "magnificent." I was very proud. At that moment, I felt myself leave my body, projected against the ceiling of the room, but without seeing anything at all. Total blackness. I knew they were below because I could hear them talking, but I couldn't do anything. I realized in that instant that we are only spirit. It was a first shock, but a positive shock, a wonder, a great discovery. A few seconds later, I began to hear voices. A man and a woman told me that if I went with them, I would no longer be in pain, that my daughter was beautiful and she didn't need me anymore, that I had done what I had to do and I could leave. I refused, telling them my daughter needed me, that I had to raise her, that I didn't want to go with them. They insisted, and I got angry. I let out a string of curses. They concluded: "They are more numerous than us. Next time." To explain, I felt internally that it was a battle. A battle of will, of spirit; it was a temptation. They argued for me to come with them, as if to turn me away from my responsibility as a mother. But I wanted to think of my daughter before thinking of myself. I had no desire to go with them. Again, I saw nothing, but through their voices, I felt they were dangerous. I ended up exhausted, spent, but I was finally able to return to my body. Twenty years later, I researched it and learned it was an NDE (Near Death Experience). And so it was a negative NDE. I am still convinced today that if I had accepted the offer from those voices, if I had told them I would go with them, I would never have returned to my body. It's obvious to me, I am absolutely certain. I know because I lived it. No one can convince me it's impossible because for me it is not a belief but a certainty, given that it is what I experienced. Later, in the recovery room, just before waking up, I heard a man's voice, warm, powerful, and resonant as if in a church. It said to me: "Martine, yesterday you fought the devil, that is good. Thanks to you, tomorrow the hostages will be released." And I woke up right after with the pleasant feeling of being in a warm bath. For context, this was referring to a hostage situation that was ongoing during the Gulf War with Saddam Hussein. A dramatic context where each day brought its share of anxiety-inducing news. The fact that this voice said my name, Martine, surprised me a great deal. I thought, "Oh, they know me." And then, I immediately felt the voice was that of God. That is still my firm conviction today. The notions of time it included in what it said really seemed like means it was very deliberately giving me to later verify the coherence of the events. At the same time, I had a very strong feeling of smallness; I was in awe. But I also felt I didn't deserve this contact. Many people search for God, and yet He speaks to me, a small thing who didn't think of Him before, who made fun of the subject when it was brought up in family discussions. I would also add that when He spoke to me, the information He transmitted existed on several levels and weren't just auditory or vocal. It was like Egyptian hieroglyphs, with each letter forming its own sound and, when added together, forming the word and the entire sentence. Then an image to aid understanding. The sentence He pronounced was relatively short, quick to hear and assimilate. Yet, in my mind, it took up a lot of space. I understood the first and primary message: it was a personal congratulation and encouragement. But simultaneously, when He said "thanks to you," I understood more than just those three words. I understood it was thanks to the fact that ultimately everything works that way. Thanks to the way the universe works, where choosing good, choosing the Other (since I was choosing my daughter), necessarily triggers a positive chain reaction; it will necessarily have repercussions on a much larger scale and for the good. From a small act of compassion towards anything, at any level, will follow a chain of light somewhere in the universe. Just like the slightest grain of sand falling on still water will create its share of waves crossing the entire surface. I also had an image when this voice spoke to me. I saw the little ball that was the Earth, our planet, and it seemed wrapped in a net. Each thread of this net lit up with a blue light that circulated at high speed through this terrestrial network. I knew immediately that the blue light represented a good deed, as if it were an energy, the energy of love. The earth seemed to regenerate.

Achtergrondinformatie

Geslacht
Female
Datum van NDE
1/1/1990

Elementen van Near Death Experience

Was er op het moment van uw ervaring een levensbedreigend voorval?
No, Childbirth, While under general anesthesia
Hoe beschouwt u de inhoud van uw ervaring?
Both pleasant AND distressing
Voelde je je gescheiden van je lichaam?
I clearly left my body and existed outside it
Hoe vergeleek uw hoogste niveau van bewustzijn en waakzaamheid tijdens de ervaring met uw normale dagelijkse bewustzijn en waakzaamheid?
More consciousness and alertness than normal, It woke me up
Op welk moment tijdens de ervaring was uw bewustzijns- en waakzaamheidsniveau het hoogst?
Before waking up
Waren uw gedachten versneld?
No
Leek de tijd sneller te gaan of langzamer?
No
Waren je zintuigen levendiger dan normaal?
No
Vergelijk uw zicht tijdens de ervaring met uw dagelijkse zicht onmiddellijk voorafgaand aan de tijd van de ervaring
I saw nothing
Vergelijk uw gehoor tijdens de ervaring met uw dagelijkse gehoor onmiddellijk voorafgaand aan de tijd van de ervaring
Same
Had u de indruk dat u zich bewust was van wat er elders gebeurde?
No
Bent u door een tunnel gegaan?
No
Zag u wezens in uw ervaring?
No
Heeft u overleden (of levende) wezens ontmoet of ervan bewust geworden?
No
Heeft u een schitterend licht gezien of voelde u zich eromheen omringd?
No
Heeft u een onaards licht gezien?
No
Leek u een andere, onaardse wereld te betreden?
Some unfamiliar and strange place, Total darkness
Welke emoties voelde je tijdens de ervaring?
Which one?
Had je een gevoel van vrede of aangenaamheid?
Relief or calmness
Had je een gevoel van vreugde?
No
Voelde je een gevoel van harmonie of eenheid met het universum?
No
Leek je plotseling alles te begrijpen?
No
Kwamen er scènes uit de toekomst tot je?
No
Kwam je bij een grens of punt van geen terugkeer?
No

God, Spiritualiteit en Religie

Wat was uw religie voor uw ervaring?
Unaffiliated- Atheist
Zijn uw religieuze praktijken veranderd sinds uw ervaring?
Yes
Wat is nu uw religie?
Christian- Mormon
Bevatte uw ervaring elementen die consistent zijn met uw aardse overtuigingen?
Content that was entirely not consistent with the beliefs you had at the time of your experience, Everything
Had u een verandering in uw waarden en overtuigingen vanwege uw ervaring?
Yes, Questioning the meaning of life
Leek u een mystiek wezen of aanwezigheid tegen te komen, of een onidentificeerbare stem te horen?
I encountered a definite being, or a voice clearly of mystical or unearthly origin, Read my account
Heeft u tijdens uw ervaring informatie gekregen over universele verbinding of eenheid?
Yes, Read my account

Met betrekking tot ons aardse leven buiten Religie

Heeft u tijdens uw ervaring speciale kennis of informatie gekregen over uw doel?
No
Heeft u tijdens uw ervaring informatie gekregen over de betekenis van het leven?
No
Heb je tijdens je ervaring informatie gekregen over een hiernamaals?
No
Heb je informatie gekregen over hoe we ons leven moeten leven?
No
Heb je tijdens je ervaring informatie gekregen over de moeilijkheden, uitdagingen en ontberingen van het leven?
No
Heb je tijdens je ervaring informatie gekregen over liefde?
Yes, Read my account
Welke levensveranderingen vonden er plaats in je leven na je ervaring?
Before, I never questioned spirituality, the afterlife, or even the meaning of life. This experience was the trigger. Since then, I have continued to follow my personal career goals while also taking others into account. I have met several people who opened me up to spiritual questioning and the life of consciousness after death. My conclusion today is that this little planet we live on is a stage, a school-planet that teaches us so that our consciousness becomes brighter and brighter.
Zijn uw relaties specifiek veranderd als gevolg van uw ervaring?
Yes

Na de NDE:

Was de ervaring moeilijk in woorden uit te drukken?
Yes, How do you describe perfection? Everything was perfect: the sound, the rhythm, the warmth of the voice. The accuracy of the words for my understanding. This way of making me understand on several levels at once.
Hoe nauwkeurig herinner je je de ervaring in vergelijking met andere levensevenementen die rond de tijd van de ervaring plaatsvonden?
I remember the experience more accurately than other life events that occurred around the time of the experience, Like all the extraordinary experiences I have had in my life, it is unforgettable.
Heeft u na uw ervaring enige paranormale, bijzondere of andere speciale gaven die u voor de ervaring niet had?
Yes, Even before
Heeft u deze ervaring ooit met anderen gedeeld?
Yes
Had u enige kennis van bijna-doodervaringen (BDE) voordat u uw ervaring had?
No
Wat geloofde je over de realiteit van je ervaring kort (dagen tot weken) nadat het gebeurd was?
Experience was definitely real, Evidence in the journal
Wat geloof je nu over de realiteit van je ervaring?
Experience was definitely real
Heeft op enig moment in uw leven iets ooit een deel van de ervaring gereproduceerd?
Yes
Beschreven de gestelde vragen en de verstrekte informatie uw ervaring nauwkeurig en volledig?
No