Martine T

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Opis iskustva

August 1990, Avignon. I was pregnant, nearing the end of my term. My gynecologist and I had decided to schedule an appointment to induce labor. My daughter was already a good size, and I wasn't necessarily built to have babies, especially not robust ones. Having her two weeks before the due date increased the chances of a natural birth. So they gave me an injection of some product to induce contractions. This lasted all afternoon; contractions every three minutes, but no dilation. Then they injected me with another product, this time to stop the contractions, so I could have a peaceful night before trying again the next day. August 21, 1990, 9:00 a.m. A new attempt: contractions every three minutes until 6:00 p.m. I was completely exhausted by the late afternoon. At that moment, the midwife and my gynecologist told me they were going to break my water to help the baby come out, as she was also starting to get tired. Waiting any longer could have become dangerous. My gynecologist broke my water and... nothing happened. The baby didn't come out. They then suggested a cesarean section. The anesthesiologist arrived and gave me an epidural. Then he came back a few minutes later and pinched the inside of my thigh. It hurt. We had to face the fact that the epidural hadn't worked. Somewhat embarrassed, he informed me he could not administer another one. After consulting, the decision was made: the only solution left was general anesthesia to perform the cesarean. By this time, it was already 9:00 p.m., and I was sad, disappointed, and tired. I found myself in the operating room, and the anesthesiologist put me to sleep. Once again, the anesthesia didn't work properly because I remember hearing my daughter cry. I also heard the midwife complimenting this "beautiful" baby and the gynecologist calling her "magnificent." I was very proud. At that moment, I felt myself leave my body, projected against the ceiling of the room, but without seeing anything at all. Total blackness. I knew they were below because I could hear them talking, but I couldn't do anything. I realized in that instant that we are only spirit. It was a first shock, but a positive shock, a wonder, a great discovery. A few seconds later, I began to hear voices. A man and a woman told me that if I went with them, I would no longer be in pain, that my daughter was beautiful and she didn't need me anymore, that I had done what I had to do and I could leave. I refused, telling them my daughter needed me, that I had to raise her, that I didn't want to go with them. They insisted, and I got angry. I let out a string of curses. They concluded: "They are more numerous than us. Next time." To explain, I felt internally that it was a battle. A battle of will, of spirit; it was a temptation. They argued for me to come with them, as if to turn me away from my responsibility as a mother. But I wanted to think of my daughter before thinking of myself. I had no desire to go with them. Again, I saw nothing, but through their voices, I felt they were dangerous. I ended up exhausted, spent, but I was finally able to return to my body. Twenty years later, I researched it and learned it was an NDE (Near Death Experience). And so it was a negative NDE. I am still convinced today that if I had accepted the offer from those voices, if I had told them I would go with them, I would never have returned to my body. It's obvious to me, I am absolutely certain. I know because I lived it. No one can convince me it's impossible because for me it is not a belief but a certainty, given that it is what I experienced. Later, in the recovery room, just before waking up, I heard a man's voice, warm, powerful, and resonant as if in a church. It said to me: "Martine, yesterday you fought the devil, that is good. Thanks to you, tomorrow the hostages will be released." And I woke up right after with the pleasant feeling of being in a warm bath. For context, this was referring to a hostage situation that was ongoing during the Gulf War with Saddam Hussein. A dramatic context where each day brought its share of anxiety-inducing news. The fact that this voice said my name, Martine, surprised me a great deal. I thought, "Oh, they know me." And then, I immediately felt the voice was that of God. That is still my firm conviction today. The notions of time it included in what it said really seemed like means it was very deliberately giving me to later verify the coherence of the events. At the same time, I had a very strong feeling of smallness; I was in awe. But I also felt I didn't deserve this contact. Many people search for God, and yet He speaks to me, a small thing who didn't think of Him before, who made fun of the subject when it was brought up in family discussions. I would also add that when He spoke to me, the information He transmitted existed on several levels and weren't just auditory or vocal. It was like Egyptian hieroglyphs, with each letter forming its own sound and, when added together, forming the word and the entire sentence. Then an image to aid understanding. The sentence He pronounced was relatively short, quick to hear and assimilate. Yet, in my mind, it took up a lot of space. I understood the first and primary message: it was a personal congratulation and encouragement. But simultaneously, when He said "thanks to you," I understood more than just those three words. I understood it was thanks to the fact that ultimately everything works that way. Thanks to the way the universe works, where choosing good, choosing the Other (since I was choosing my daughter), necessarily triggers a positive chain reaction; it will necessarily have repercussions on a much larger scale and for the good. From a small act of compassion towards anything, at any level, will follow a chain of light somewhere in the universe. Just like the slightest grain of sand falling on still water will create its share of waves crossing the entire surface. I also had an image when this voice spoke to me. I saw the little ball that was the Earth, our planet, and it seemed wrapped in a net. Each thread of this net lit up with a blue light that circulated at high speed through this terrestrial network. I knew immediately that the blue light represented a good deed, as if it were an energy, the energy of love. The earth seemed to regenerate.

Osnovne informacije

Pol
Female
Datum kada se dogodila NDE
1/1/1990

Elementi bliske smrti

Da li je u vreme vašeg iskustva postojala povezena opasnost po život?
No, Childbirth, While under general anesthesia
Kako smatrate sadržaj svog iskustva?
Both pleasant AND distressing
Da li ste se osećali odvojeno od svog tela?
I clearly left my body and existed outside it
Kako se vaš najviši nivo svesti i budnosti tokom iskustva poredi sa vašom uobičajenom svakodnevnom svešću i budnošću?
More consciousness and alertness than normal, It woke me up
U kom trenutku tokom iskustva ste bili na najvišem nivou svesti i budnosti?
Before waking up
Da li su vam misli bile ubrzane?
No
Da li se činilo da vreme ubrzava ili usporava?
No
Da li su vam čula bila življa nego obično?
No
Molimo vas da uporedite vaš vid tokom iskustva sa vašim svakodnevnim vidom koji ste imali neposredno pre vremena iskustva
I saw nothing
Molimo vas da uporedite vaš sluh tokom iskustva sa vašim svakodnevnim sluhom koji ste imali neposredno pre vremena iskustva
Same
Da li ste imali osećaj da ste svesni stvari koje se dešavaju negde drugde?
No
Da li ste prošli kroz tunel?
No
Da li ste u svom iskustvu videli neka bića?
No
Da li ste naišli ili postali svesni bilo kojih pokojnih (ili živih) bića?
No
Da li ste videli ili se osećali okruženi sjajnom svetlošću?
No
Da li ste videli nebesku svetlost?
No
Da li vam se činilo da ste ušli u neki drugi, natprirodni svet?
Some unfamiliar and strange place, Total darkness
Koje emocije ste osećali tokom iskustva?
Which one?
Da li ste imali osećaj mira ili prijatnosti?
Relief or calmness
Da li ste imali osećaj radosti?
No
Da li ste osećali osećaj harmonije ili jedinstva sa univerzumom?
No
Da li vam se odjednom činilo da razumete sve?
No
Da li su vam dolazile scene iz budućnosti?
No
Da li ste došli do granice ili tačke sa koje nema povratka?
No

Bog, duhovnost i religija

Koja je bila vaša religija pre vašeg iskustva?
Unaffiliated- Atheist
Da li su se vaše verske prakse promenile od vašeg iskustva?
Yes
Koja je vaša religija sada?
Christian- Mormon
Da li je vaše iskustvo uključivalo karakteristike u skladu sa vašim zemaljskim verovanjima?
Content that was entirely not consistent with the beliefs you had at the time of your experience, Everything
Da li ste doživeli promenu u svojim vrednostima i verovanjima zbog vašeg iskustva?
Yes, Questioning the meaning of life
Da li vam se činilo da ste sreli mistično biće ili prisustvo, ili ste čuli neidentifkovan glas?
I encountered a definite being, or a voice clearly of mystical or unearthly origin, Read my account
Tokom vašeg iskustva, da li ste stekli informacije o univerzalnoj povezanosti ili jedinstvu?
Yes, Read my account

Što se tiče naših zemaljskih života osim religije

Tokom vašeg iskustva, da li ste dobili posebno znanje ili informacije o vašoj svrsi?
No
Tokom vašeg iskustva, da li ste stekli informacije o smislu života?
No
Tokom vašeg iskustva, da li ste stekli informacije o životu posle smrti?
No
Da li ste stekli informacije o tome kako da živimo naše živote?
No
Tokom vašeg iskustva, da li ste stekli informacije o teškoćama, izazovima i nedaćama u životu?
No
Tokom vašeg iskustva, da li ste stekli informacije o ljubavi?
Yes, Read my account
Koje su promene u životu nastale posle vašeg iskustva?
Before, I never questioned spirituality, the afterlife, or even the meaning of life. This experience was the trigger. Since then, I have continued to follow my personal career goals while also taking others into account. I have met several people who opened me up to spiritual questioning and the life of consciousness after death. My conclusion today is that this little planet we live on is a stage, a school-planet that teaches us so that our consciousness becomes brighter and brighter.
Da li su se vaši odnosi promenili posebno kao rezultat vašeg iskustva?
Yes

Posle NDE:

Da li je iskustvo bilo teško opisati rečima?
Yes, How do you describe perfection? Everything was perfect: the sound, the rhythm, the warmth of the voice. The accuracy of the words for my understanding. This way of making me understand on several levels at once.
Koliko precizno se sećate iskustva u poređenju sa drugim životnim događajima koji su se desili u vreme vašeg iskustva?
I remember the experience more accurately than other life events that occurred around the time of the experience, Like all the extraordinary experiences I have had in my life, it is unforgettable.
Da li imate bilo kakve psihičke, neobične ili druge posebne sposobnosti nakon vašeg iskustva koje niste imali pre iskustva?
Yes, Even before
Da li ste ikada podelili ovo iskustvo sa drugima?
Yes
Da li ste imali bilo kakvo znanje o iskustvima bliske smrti (NDE) pre vašeg iskustva?
No
Šta ste verovali o realnosti vašeg iskustva shortly (dana do nedelje) nakon što se desilo?
Experience was definitely real, Evidence in the journal
Šta verujete o realnosti vašeg iskustva sada?
Experience was definitely real
Da li je u bilo kom trenutku u vašem životu nešto ikada reproduciralo bilo koji deo iskustva?
Yes
Da li su postavljena pitanja i informacije koje ste pružili tačno i sveobuhvatno opisali vaše iskustvo?
No